# Generative Patches?

**URL:** <https://forum.udo-audio.com/t/generative-patches/355>\
**Category:** Tips & Tricks\
**Created:** [15 April 2021 13:34 UTC](https://forum.udo-audio.com/t/generative-patches/355 "2021-04-15T13:34:56Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 4\
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**Author:** ![ZaneAlexander](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/c0e974/32.png) [@ZaneAlexander](https://forum.udo-audio.com/u/ZaneAlexander)\
**Post date:** [15 April 2021 13:34 UTC](https://forum.udo-audio.com/t/generative-patches/355/1 "2021-04-15T13:34:56Z")

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Hi,

Does anyone know if the Super 6 is currently capable of [generative patches](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O4-kAUAdnSE&ab_channel=NeonShores)?

It’s something I’d like to try without getting a modular setup.

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**Author:** ![White\_Noise](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/c89c15/32.png) [@White\_Noise](https://forum.udo-audio.com/u/White_Noise)\
**Post date:** [15 April 2021 15:47 UTC](https://forum.udo-audio.com/t/generative-patches/355/2 "2021-04-15T15:47:23Z")

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I think you could get somewhere by using LFO1 and DDS2 in LFO mode, both set to noise/random, and sent to various parameters in varying amounts. Not sure if you can trigger the envelopes with an LFO, but assuming you can, you’d be right in the ballpark I think.

Edit: You could send one of the LFOs to the amp directly, and then use the looping envelope as a third LFO for more variations.

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**Author:** ![synth4ever](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/flex017/user_avatar/forum.udo-audio.com/synth4ever/32/84_2.png) [@synth4ever](https://forum.udo-audio.com/u/synth4ever)\
**Post date:** [15 April 2021 21:01 UTC](https://forum.udo-audio.com/t/generative-patches/355/3 "2021-04-15T21:01:35Z")

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It is possible, though not the most apparent. I created a patch that’s very “Autechre-ish” that has generative qualities awhile ago, except I can’t reverse engineer exactly how I did it now lol. But, pretty sure it had to do with looping envelope and LFOs, and possibly using LFO1 S&H to modulate DDS2 either in normal or LFO mode.

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**Author:** ![trond.olsen](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/a9a28c/32.png) [@trond.olsen](https://forum.udo-audio.com/u/trond.olsen)\
**Post date:** [16 April 2021 21:09 UTC](https://forum.udo-audio.com/t/generative-patches/355/4 "2021-04-16T21:09:29Z")

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Nice tip for using the synth!

You can simulate variable length “notes” by:  
Set LFO1 to random  
Let LFO1 modulate DDS1 and DDS2  
Set DDS2 to square and activate lfo mode  
Let DDS2 modulate LFO1
