# Internal clock tempo - no TAP? **URL:** \ **Category:** Feature Wish List\ **Created:** [1 August 2022 02:04 UTC](https://forum.udo-audio.com/t/internal-clock-tempo-no-tap/1379 "2022-08-01T02:04:42Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 5\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Black\_Materia](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/f475e1/32.png) [@Black\_Materia](https://forum.udo-audio.com/u/Black_Materia)\ **Post date:** [1 August 2022 02:04 UTC](https://forum.udo-audio.com/t/internal-clock-tempo-no-tap/1379/1 "2022-08-01T02:04:42Z")
I took the Super6 to a jam today. I was blown away again by the audio quality and versatility. But i i was hoping to be able to occasionally latch some arpeggio’s while tweaking other gear, However, i was surprised to discover there’s no way to tap in a tempo when you are using internal clocking/no midi?? Trying to dial in a tempo with a rotary encoder is tricky at the best of times, but a total no-no during a live jam. I would really like a way to be able to tap in a tempo! and i bet a lot of people will agree. ---
**Author:** ![udo-audio](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/flex017/user_avatar/forum.udo-audio.com/udo-audio/32/8_2.png) [@udo-audio](https://forum.udo-audio.com/u/udo-audio)\ **Post date:** [1 August 2022 05:54 UTC](https://forum.udo-audio.com/t/internal-clock-tempo-no-tap/1379/2 "2022-08-01T05:54:02Z")
@Black_Materia i can see how a tap tempo would be very useful in this setting of internal clocking during a jam. We will have a think if there’s anything we can do @DDS this is a good one to log/upvote ---
**Author:** ![ryan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/a8b319/32.png) [@ryan](https://forum.udo-audio.com/u/ryan)\ **Post date:** [6 August 2022 11:27 UTC](https://forum.udo-audio.com/t/internal-clock-tempo-no-tap/1379/3 "2022-08-06T11:27:20Z")
Hey B would love to know more about your jam situation , eg how many instruments , was there any midi sync going between any other members ? im taking the S6 to a jam ive been attending for a few weeks … we generally try to sync everyone via midi ,im guess ing you want to sync delays and maybe apps sequences to your fellow jammers ? are any of them using sequencers? ive found tap tempo pretty rubbish on anything , bar delays … if your either trying to join a sequenced source , eg join in with other synced up instruments , or trying to sync with live musicians with tap is futile , if your lucky you could maybe play an arp for a bar before things start sounding out (in my ear)… now this might be my tap tempo skills , but I do play drums and hand percussion at some level , my ear is very good been a dj for 25 years , I wondered if you’ve got a secret formula for syncing in jams using tap tempo ? cuz for me id rather try get everyone to use a clock , then you can relax more into soundesign and playing rather than constantly re tapping … if others are using sequencers , but you haven’t got the gear to sync , then more useful would be a bpm read out , which. isn’t ever gonna be a super 6 option … but if you have anything else with this midi and bpm on screen … plug the s6 out into that and use it to set your s6 to the tempo of your mate with the drum machine / what ever … midi leads for all and a good thrubox. with enough outs is the best in my experience … ---
**Author:** ![Black\_Materia](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/f475e1/32.png) [@Black\_Materia](https://forum.udo-audio.com/u/Black_Materia)\ **Post date:** [6 August 2022 13:09 UTC](https://forum.udo-audio.com/t/internal-clock-tempo-no-tap/1379/4 "2022-08-06T13:09:44Z")
Ryan, hello it seems your message had ended up in my spam folder. The situation was as follows: there was some modular gear being clocked by cv, a guitaris, bassist etc. No midi clock availeable. So i was playing keys, but i usually can still use sequences or arps by tapping in a tempo. In a studio situation, i can match tempo with a rotary tempo control with some effort and a slight period of unpleasant ‘polyrithms’ until i get it right. But it’s not something i can do while jamming or playing on stage. Tapping tempo works fine for me, though it will drift a bit. I just listen to the groove, start counting a pulse of fourths in my head, and once i have it, start tapping. A good trick for doing tap tempo is this: think of the moment you tap/hit the button as ‘jumping off, lifting away from the button, rather than hitting it, as if you were physically jumping up every time the beat hits. It’s kind of a mental trick that gives a much tighter timing. if you think of ’ i have to hit down every time the beat plays’ you’re gonna be late ineviteably, or likely. Try it, once you get it it will make a huge difference. It’s a trick that works for drumming or playing keys as well btw. To be honest i ofcourse would always prefer a midi clock if i can help it. But sometimes it’s no option, and sometimes you’re playing with more ‘traditional’ musicians who are doing a bit of gatekeeping. So it’s a handy skill. Greetings, Matthias ---
**Author:** ![vanzea](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/b2d939/32.png) [@vanzea](https://forum.udo-audio.com/u/vanzea)\ **Post date:** [7 August 2022 07:32 UTC](https://forum.udo-audio.com/t/internal-clock-tempo-no-tap/1379/5 "2022-08-07T07:32:44Z")
I used to do this when I still had a Nord Stage 2. This keyboard has a tap tempo button, which I used to sync the delay time with the drummer (so no midi-clock). Which worked great.