# UDO Super Gemini Questions

**URL:** <https://forum.udo-audio.com/t/udo-super-gemini-questions/1887>\
**Category:** Super Gemini\
**Created:** [26 May 2023 19:49 UTC](https://forum.udo-audio.com/t/udo-super-gemini-questions/1887 "2023-05-26T19:49:27Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![avery.moss.magic](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/flex017/user_avatar/forum.udo-audio.com/avery.moss.magic/32/1250_2.png) [@avery.moss.magic](https://forum.udo-audio.com/u/avery.moss.magic)\
**Post date:** [21 December 2023 00:03 UTC](https://forum.udo-audio.com/t/udo-super-gemini-questions/1887/64 "2023-12-21T00:03:53Z")

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Does anyone from UDO know if the Super Gemini is round-robin or not, with regard to voices? Thanks!

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**Author:** ![udo-audio](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/flex017/user_avatar/forum.udo-audio.com/udo-audio/32/8_2.png) [@udo-audio](https://forum.udo-audio.com/u/udo-audio)\
**Post date:** [21 December 2023 07:46 UTC](https://forum.udo-audio.com/t/udo-super-gemini-questions/1887/65 "2023-12-21T07:46:31Z")

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@avery.moss.magic Gemini is round robin. The super 6 will be again also, the firmware we have been trialling for s6 already implements this. I personally really like the sticky algorithm, particularly for keys/ep patches, but I think on balance people have gotten used to round robin as the expected behaviour

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**Author:** ![udo-audio](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/flex017/user_avatar/forum.udo-audio.com/udo-audio/32/8_2.png) [@udo-audio](https://forum.udo-audio.com/u/udo-audio)\
**Post date:** [21 December 2023 07:47 UTC](https://forum.udo-audio.com/t/udo-super-gemini-questions/1887/66 "2023-12-21T07:47:42Z")

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@DDS please can you log battwave as a Gemini feature request in our system thanks (I can’t believe we’re all still referring to it as the Battwave). I think we should also consider for Super 6 as well that when using Battwave, the slowest arpeggio rate might reasonably be several octaves slower, as the complex waves have many harmonics, and these quickly end up in audio range even with modest fundamental lfo rate

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**Author:** ![avery.moss.magic](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/flex017/user_avatar/forum.udo-audio.com/avery.moss.magic/32/1250_2.png) [@avery.moss.magic](https://forum.udo-audio.com/u/avery.moss.magic)\
**Post date:** [21 December 2023 12:26 UTC](https://forum.udo-audio.com/t/udo-super-gemini-questions/1887/67 "2023-12-21T12:26:12Z")

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Any considerations about allowing both S6 and SG users swap between behaviors in the patch settings? That would be awesome, because I like both behaviors for different things.

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**Author:** ![ZaneAlexander](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/c0e974/32.png) [@ZaneAlexander](https://forum.udo-audio.com/u/ZaneAlexander)\
**Post date:** [21 December 2023 13:14 UTC](https://forum.udo-audio.com/t/udo-super-gemini-questions/1887/68 "2023-12-21T13:14:15Z")

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Configurations options were brought up here:

> [@\[Poll\] UDO Gear Custom Configuration](https://forum.udo-audio.com/t/poll-udo-gear-custom-configuration/2145):
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> Would you guys be interested in accessing custom configuration for your UDO Gear? If so, would you prefer: [poll](https://forum.udo-audio.com/t/poll-udo-gear-custom-configuration/2145/1) Discussion stems from: Also, what parameters would you guys be interested in seeing available? For example, I’ve seen some of us mention wanting more control of the “smoothing/slew” amount.

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**Author:** ![rjamesjers](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/6de8d8/32.png) [@rjamesjers](https://forum.udo-audio.com/u/rjamesjers)\
**Post date:** [21 December 2023 15:51 UTC](https://forum.udo-audio.com/t/udo-super-gemini-questions/1887/69 "2023-12-21T15:51:27Z")

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Thank you! Very keen for dual layer batts! 🦇

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**Author:** ![avery.moss.magic](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/flex017/user_avatar/forum.udo-audio.com/avery.moss.magic/32/1250_2.png) [@avery.moss.magic](https://forum.udo-audio.com/u/avery.moss.magic)\
**Post date:** [21 December 2023 16:50 UTC](https://forum.udo-audio.com/t/udo-super-gemini-questions/1887/70 "2023-12-21T16:50:08Z")

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It would be AMAZING if voice style could be saved PER PATCH. Seriously, it would amazing - that way you could customize voice (round-robin vs not) without a power-off config option (putting it in the menu?), allowing perfect keys patches etc (I agree with you, George). @udo-audio @DDS

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**Author:** ![Jonah](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/flex017/user_avatar/forum.udo-audio.com/jonah/32/735_2.png) [@Jonah](https://forum.udo-audio.com/u/Jonah)\
**Post date:** [23 December 2023 09:25 UTC](https://forum.udo-audio.com/t/udo-super-gemini-questions/1887/72 "2023-12-23T09:25:24Z")

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@udo-audio i have a Mission Engineering ep-25k exp pedal(25k pot) and VM Pro volume pedal, are these compatible with the Supe?

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**Author:** ![udo-audio](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/flex017/user_avatar/forum.udo-audio.com/udo-audio/32/8_2.png) [@udo-audio](https://forum.udo-audio.com/u/udo-audio)\
**Post date:** [23 December 2023 10:10 UTC](https://forum.udo-audio.com/t/udo-super-gemini-questions/1887/73 "2023-12-23T10:10:06Z")

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@Jonah the expression pedal yes but the active volume pedal maybe no as it’s not really designed for this sort of thing. Better to use an expression pedal for the volume pedal input on Gemini, or a passive volume pedal with a expression output. My favourite BOSS FV500

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**Author:** ![Jonah](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/flex017/user_avatar/forum.udo-audio.com/jonah/32/735_2.png) [@Jonah](https://forum.udo-audio.com/u/Jonah)\
**Post date:** [23 December 2023 10:21 UTC](https://forum.udo-audio.com/t/udo-super-gemini-questions/1887/74 "2023-12-23T10:21:23Z")

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Ok thank you, yeah just looking at that pedal right now, built like a tank!

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**Author:** ![RonF](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/c77e96/32.png) [@RonF](https://forum.udo-audio.com/u/RonF)\
**Post date:** [16 January 2024 19:35 UTC](https://forum.udo-audio.com/t/udo-super-gemini-questions/1887/76 "2024-01-16T19:35:46Z")

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Question regarding Direct Parameter Mappings in the Mod Matrix:

Page 86, Paragraph 3 of the manual says: “To create a direct parameter mapping, press and hold any of the eight modulation source buttons (1-8). To increase the potential of LFO 1, this method also applies to the button labelled LFO 1.”

This would seem to clearly indicate that LFO1 has been added as a Mod Source in the Matrix via button 9 (Labeled LFO1). This would be fantastic! But, I cannot get it to work. Was this an error in the manual? A feature yet to be implemented? Or, is there some other procedure (other than the obvious of holding button 9 and moving a panel parameter to lock a matrix assignment) which makes this work?

Again, having LFO1 as a source in the matrix would be huge, so I am hoping that I am missing something, or at the very least, it’s a feature on its way, that perhaps made it past editing the manual first version.

Thanks for any input…and hopefully UDO can chime in here?

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**Author:** ![RonF](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/c77e96/32.png) [@RonF](https://forum.udo-audio.com/u/RonF)\
**Post date:** [16 January 2024 19:41 UTC](https://forum.udo-audio.com/t/udo-super-gemini-questions/1887/77 "2024-01-16T19:41:41Z")

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Regarding Battwave: This would be a very valuable addition! Its sorely missing on the SG, from the S6 feature set.

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**Author:** ![RonF](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/c77e96/32.png) [@RonF](https://forum.udo-audio.com/u/RonF)\
**Post date:** [5 February 2024 20:16 UTC](https://forum.udo-audio.com/t/udo-super-gemini-questions/1887/78 "2024-02-05T20:16:57Z")

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Bump! UDO please answer?

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**Author:** ![DDS](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/flex017/user_avatar/forum.udo-audio.com/dds/32/11_2.png) [@DDS](https://forum.udo-audio.com/u/DDS)\
**Post date:** [6 February 2024 12:32 UTC](https://forum.udo-audio.com/t/udo-super-gemini-questions/1887/79 "2024-02-06T12:32:18Z")

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The Battwave feature is on our list of feature requests for the Super Gemini.

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**Author:** ![RonF](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/c77e96/32.png) [@RonF](https://forum.udo-audio.com/u/RonF)\
**Post date:** [6 February 2024 17:42 UTC](https://forum.udo-audio.com/t/udo-super-gemini-questions/1887/80 "2024-02-06T17:42:10Z")

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> [@RonF](#):
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> Question regarding Direct Parameter Mappings in the Mod Matrix:
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> Page 86, Paragraph 3 of the manual says: “To create a direct parameter mapping, press and hold any of the eight modulation source buttons (1-8). To increase the potential of LFO 1, this method also applies to the button labelled LFO 1.”
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> This would seem to clearly indicate that LFO1 has been added as a Mod Source in the Matrix via button 9 (Labeled LFO1). This would be fantastic! But, I cannot get it to work. Was this an error in the manual? A feature yet to be implemented? Or, is there some other procedure (other than the obvious of holding button 9 and moving a panel parameter to lock a matrix assignment) which makes this work?
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> Again, having LFO1 as a source in the matrix would be huge, so I am hoping that I am missing something, or at the very least, it’s a feature on its way, that perhaps made it past editing the manual first version.
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> Thanks for any input…and hopefully UDO can chime in here?

Thanks for responding! But the question I was referring to is this one, quoted here. Please let us know if this is functioning, a mistake in the manual, forthcoming…?

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**Author:** ![DDS](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/flex017/user_avatar/forum.udo-audio.com/dds/32/11_2.png) [@DDS](https://forum.udo-audio.com/u/DDS)\
**Post date:** [6 February 2024 18:26 UTC](https://forum.udo-audio.com/t/udo-super-gemini-questions/1887/81 "2024-02-06T18:26:56Z")

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Apologies for the confusion. This is in fact an unintentional leftover from an early draft of the manual. LFO 1 cannot currently be assigned as a modulation source.

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**Author:** ![RonF](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/c77e96/32.png) [@RonF](https://forum.udo-audio.com/u/RonF)\
**Post date:** [6 February 2024 18:51 UTC](https://forum.udo-audio.com/t/udo-super-gemini-questions/1887/82 "2024-02-06T18:51:09Z")

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Thanks so much for confirming. Please consider following through with this feature in a future update…it would be an amazing enhancement to the Super Gemini, and secure its status as the UDO flagship synth, above the Super 6. I’m happy you folks were even considering this as a feature, so much as to put this in an early draft of the manual. Your aspiration for this feature was spot on! It would truly bring the SG to another level. Thank you again!

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**Author:** ![echo44](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/3d9bf3/32.png) [@echo44](https://forum.udo-audio.com/u/echo44)\
**Post date:** [19 February 2024 22:50 UTC](https://forum.udo-audio.com/t/udo-super-gemini-questions/1887/83 "2024-02-19T22:50:17Z")

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Hi  
Just received my Super Gemini when I select “b” performance presets and select any of the letters/numbers they all seem empty is this normal?

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**Author:** ![japes](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/22d042/32.png) [@japes](https://forum.udo-audio.com/u/japes)\
**Post date:** [20 February 2024 07:04 UTC](https://forum.udo-audio.com/t/udo-super-gemini-questions/1887/84 "2024-02-20T07:04:13Z")

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Is it possible to set both layers to the same MIDI channel? I want to customize both layers and trigger them simultaneously via a sequencer in DUAL mode.

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**Author:** ![Jonah](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/flex017/user_avatar/forum.udo-audio.com/jonah/32/735_2.png) [@Jonah](https://forum.udo-audio.com/u/Jonah)\
**Post date:** [20 February 2024 08:49 UTC](https://forum.udo-audio.com/t/udo-super-gemini-questions/1887/85 "2024-02-20T08:49:06Z")

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Yep that’s the way mine is so normal.

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