Compatibility S6 <-> SG

Can I use my existing patches, sequences and waveforms from S6 and load them into the Gemini?
I expect, the waveforms and sequences can be used, but concerning the patches, I doubt if Gemini can detect that this one layer structure form S6 is to be linked to only one of the Gemini layers. Is this taken into account?

As you guessed correctly, the waveform and sequence files will be identical. However, the patch files will have different file extensions and due to the bi-timbral nature of the Super Gemini there will also be performance files.

Please could you make it possible, that Gemini accepts the S6 patch files or, if not possible, make a tool to converts S6 patch file into Gemini patch file.

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Seconded. I preordered and sold my S6, would love to still have access to my old patches.

I would prefer a MIDI solution rather than fiddling with patchfiles. Same goes for file management. It would mean further firmware development though.

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Exactly the question I was going to ask. I’m yet to pull the trigger on a UDO product, and am torn between the Super 6 and Super Gemini. I love the idea of a bi-timbral synth because for years my daughter had a digital piano that allowed you to layer sounds, and the combination of piano and strings was always a favourite of mine - something percussive with something swirling in the background. For this the Super Gemini would be ideal, but I love the idea of being able to load in Super 6 patches too, even if they aren’t exactly 1:1, because let’s be honest - Super Gemini isn’t just two Super 6’s back-to-back, it’s its own thing.

I’m not too bothered about PolyAT, but perhaps a Super 6 desktop with an external controller would afford me more options going forwards…options options!

Currently you cannot layer sounds on the S6 also are you aware that neither UDO synth can or ever will be able produce a passable piano sound - its not what they were designed for, wrong technology , so unless you midi up the UDO with a decent Piano sound from your DAW etc the S6 / Gemini will not meet your stated aims but why do that when there are so many software synths that can layer sounds etc so easily if you want to work ‘in the box’.
May I suggest that when you addition the UDO synths you also try out current and last years flagships from Roland , Yamaha and Korg as being digital hardware synths /workstations any of them can easily layer sounds plus have a high number of excellent acoustic piano sounds as well depending on make a whole spread of acoustic natural sounds plus powerful FM , Sample based, wavetable and Analog style synth sounds.

Yeah I know you can’t layer sounds on S6, just saying I’d like the ability to have layered sounds, hence my interest in the SG. I also know neither can produce an acoustic piano sound, was just citing an example based on what my daughter had. Having said that, they can produce a reasonable FM-like electric piano.

As flexible and cheap as soft synths are, I work on a computer all day, and don’t really want to sit at one to noodle around musically, also find a largely touch or mouse-based interface not as immediate.

All of the major flagships are on my radar, including the new Genos2 as that offers so much music potential at the expense of pure sonic flexibility: The closest contender at the moment is probably the Montage M series, just a shame they locked PolyAT behind the 88 key version.

Is it still the case that one cannot import Super 6 patches onto one of the Super Gemini layers? I would sell the S6 and get the Gemini, but not willing to lose the many patches I have.

You cannot do that today and no positive feedback on my request.

I see there is a Super 6 patch editor here, which also deals with waveforms.

The good news is the waveforms could be transferred as the same file type, so it would be the rather painful matter of manually recreating patches in the Super Gemini. But at least this software would give us the exact values everything is set to.

Perhaps this developer will update this for the June 3rd update and also come out with something for the Super Gemini that bridges the gap even further.

This was already discussed, please refer to:
https://forum.udo-audio.com/t/super-6-editor/813/99?u=vanlesson

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For sure when I’ll know the content of the June 3rd 1.0 I will make changes if needed.
I should get some info to finalize the Save.
I also asked for some info about the SG in order to build at least a librarian.
But as you know, this week is Superbooth so they have some work on their plate and they will have to rest a bit.
So, cross fingers. Also for myself as I like to keep things up to date.

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You are legendary. Please keep us posted on an SG version. Please make the color white :slight_smile:

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Impossible, the SG have a ring modulation, a wave morphin fader, a fader control for the second oscillator (DDS2) in a VCA section and more. You also have the poly aftertouch.

You can use patch from Super 8 into SG but you will never be able to use Super 6 patches.

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