@ryan Chill out Ryan, I bought Super Gemini for sound design, but I would still like to have access to presets 
…And who cares, I’m not a spoiled rich kid, I bought the Super Gemini product with money I made from my music, compositions, with the sound design done by me. Get your VSTs and those toys that you recommend to me Ryan, Ryan 
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The SG is quite a niche instrument compared to instruments from other brands which puts us owners in quite a select group. Then if you factor in the percentage of owners who have the time or inclination to publish sound packs/presets that number reduces further again. The folks who do this for money probably don’t see investing in an SG, making patches for it and selling them a viable business strategy given the base they’ll be selling to (plus I’d wager many SG owners aren’t interested in presets preferring to create their own sounds). As others have said UDO is a very small outfit and given there are bugs that still need ironing out I’d imagine their focus in on that (or I’d hope it is!
the SG is a deep instrument so maybe spend some more time with it and start saving your patches. I’m not being facetious saying that; you’ve identified a gap in the market so maybe plug it and share your kind of presets amongst us. I hear what you’re saying about many of the online demos and I tend to agree, they’re not the sounds I like to make. It’s a shame because the SG will do so much more than ambient sounds and pads. I’m sure the good folks around here will give you tips and advice with sound design and getting the sort of patches out of your SG that you want.
above all have fun with it!
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ohh - have you managed to get what you wanted out of the Gemini? i couldn’t follow the thread to be honest.
I made a little video of some of the sounds i’ve made with it - It has a silly intro which you can skip…
id be interested to know if you would still like it do something different?
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@sinestarproject Hey! 
Thanks so much for sharing the video – I really enjoyed it! That fun intro set the tone nicely, and the sounds you created with the Gemini are fantastic. There’s a lot of depth and character in what you’re doing – it’s clear you have a great ear for sonic storytelling.
Honestly, I wish I had someone like you as a studio partner – I think we’d complement each other really well. I’d definitely trust working with you on cinematic sound design or background music for documentaries. Two creative minds and two UDO Super Geminis – that could definitely lead to something amazing.
Right now, I’m actively expanding and refining my music portfolio. I cover a wide range of genres – from cinematic and electronic to movie trailer music, hip-hop, trap, phonk, rock, and hybrid sounds. I’m a big fan of bands like Depeche Mode, Radiohead, Nirvana, but I also draw inspiration from ambient and commercial music like Jean-Michel Jarre, Vangelis, and Enya.
I also have a deep love for world and ethnic music, especially when it’s fused with electronic elements. I invite you to check out my YouTube channel, Deep Ethnic Vibes, where I explore organic house with Middle Eastern influences – it’s one of the spaces where I express that fusion most freely.
At the moment, I’m collaborating with Storyblocks, Pond5, and a few other platforms, but I’m aiming higher – my next target is Universal Music Production, and ideally landing work directly with channels like Viasat History.
So yes, I’d be genuinely interested in collaborating if you’d ever be up for it. Would love to create something powerful and immersive together.
Let me know what you think!
Cheers,
SERDAN aka Aparat Blue
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Hi Serdan,
thanks for the kind reply.
I did in fact listen to your music, believe it or not its right up my street, my wife even more so, she’s the real spiritualist.
the mixes sounds warm, lovely bass too.
Anyway, it sounds like you are doing fine on your on, why share the small profits we get, i think you can do what i do very easily, so i’m not sure i could bring anything different to the table that you couldn’t your self?
But it’s lovely to be asked.
ill follow you on IG,
all the best
Pete
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very nice words… what shame
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@udo-audio please, please, please, please, please 
can we have more preset packs for your instruments. There are some for the Super 6 but none for the Sg or S8. I’m a complete noob lol so I would love some more preset to explore, and, so would lots of your customers it seems.
Thanking you in advance 
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Bug fixes and re-calibration of certain settings would also be welcome.
George has admitted on camera that he loves pad sounds and has a tendency to demo those kinds of sounds with UDO products instead of what else they can do. As a result of this criticism, he’s gone on to demo that the UDO synths can make other sounds beyond pads and textures.
I will say that I find the Super Gemini suffers from ‘bad presets’ syndrome and doesn’t give you a lot of starting points if you’re the kind of person who wants to start at a preset to use it as a way to make other types of sounds. This is generally how I work and even though I understand subtractive synthesis, I find myself going to other synths I have in my studio to do basses, leads, etc. because I lack the starting points on the Super Gemini that I have on other synths to get the sounds I want fast.
It would be nice to see UDO do some newer presets for the Super Gemini that don’t focus on pads and similar textures. Not everyone is a sound design genius and that’s absolutely okay.
I’m fortunate that the Super Gemini is a long term loan and I didn’t pay the hefty price tag, but this observation regarding the presets has made me spend less time with it than I probably should.
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@loopdokter Yes, exactly, you pointed it out well. Because of these starting points, it also makes me spend a little time on Super Gemini and to call on other tools. It’s a pity, it’s a very versatile tool, but poor at the same time. It’s like a very beautiful and smart woman but cheeky :))… This Super Gemini is only used when you still need ‘something’…
Hey there,
There are an enormous amount of sounds, “classic”, “vintage” and otherwise that can be obtained by using 1/4 of what this synth has to offer. For starters, make it like a Juno 106 by using filter 2 for Amp and Filter, and turn binaural off. There is an entire world of sound within just one oscillator, one envelope, one lfo, and a filter. The envelopes on the super 6 are incredibly snappy, and so they are very well tuned for percussive sounds.
Or, use it more like a prophet 5 and use both oscillators, both envelopes, switch drive off, and just be simple with your modulation use(dont use LFO 2, stay away from the “super” waves, and keep LFO1 freerunning). It won’t sound like a prophet 5 (what does), but it can deliver a modern lucid version of that range of sounds.
To be frank, this seems like a user error issue, which usually is no problem, but the tone of your first post is pretty wild, and smacks of inexperience or just entitlement. If you just want a bunch of nice sounding presets buy a vst with a huge library.
I have my own gripes with the Super 6, some specific features that work strangely, some bugs, and there is a specific “lucid cleanness” that is hard to get away from, but I think there isn’t much argument about it and the entire line being incredibly capable synths.
I guess I’m saying is, this thread is weird. Almost seems like you are trolling, but in this day in age hard to tell. I never respond to comments but this just made me mad 
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I’m the proud owner of a Gemini and a Super 6. I love them both. And I agree that some top-notch preset packs for the Gemini would be great–the Super 6 has gotten many over the years, including an excellent polyphonic AT one fairly recently. (Actually, if I can be greedy, I would really love to have a preset pack of patches AND performances for the Gemini!)
George and team run a pretty successful business, and in order to stay in business, they have to keep inventing cool new stuff. Since the Super 8 was basically a smaller Gemini, and likely took less development time overall, my guess is they’ve been working on their next synth for the past ~2 years.
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What’s the point of releasing yet another synth if your flagship is riddled with bugs? It’s advertised as a sound design powerhouse not a preset player.
I definitely lean towards this side. I personally wouldn’t say riddled with bugs, but there’s definitely room for improvement. The thing is sound design with UDO synths is really fantastic. Both sound wise, and work flow wise, but there are some serious practical issues, as well as annoying little bugs.
Based on what I see in the outside world, I also suspect that these issues keep people from buying UDO synths.
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I also want to add that I’m experiencing several issues with the UDO Super Gemini.
For example, it behaves very strangely when I try to connect it to a DAW like Ableton.
In this mode, only 2–3 functions from the S.G. actually respond.
So, if I want to do something serious, the only way is to use it in “LOCAL” mode and record WAV files.
But if I try to manipulate a sound on a MIDI channel with tones from the S.G., all the functions become unusable.
And regarding tones/presets, I would prefer something more up-to-date and modern, not just the synth/pad types that come from the factory.
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Could you elaborate a bit more how you experience the issue? I assume by mode you mean setup. Some things to check:
- Enabled MIDI CC receive and transmit on the synth (try disabling high-resolution NRPN transmit mode)
- Synth is only connected by MIDI DIN or USB cable. Having both connected creates issues.
- Check if DAW or MIDI hub applies MIDI filtering
- Check if low resolution MIDI (CC) receive and transmit works properly, on both synth and in DAW
- Super 8 / Gemini specific:
- Upper layer expects MIDI channel N
- Lower layer expects MIDI channel N+1
- In single mode the synth will respond to both MIDI channel N and N+1
- In single mode with lower layer select the synth behaves wrongly to MIDI channel N
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As every parameter is controlled exponentially, even the ones that must not be, faders are in fact low/mid/high switches. There is no escape from the pad types or simple synth as it is impossible, by design, to get relevant values. Same reason you can’t get FM or amp modulation actually tuned and bearable. It is by design, also MIDI values are mapped to the exp curves, so no presets pack or computer assisted sound design will offer other timbres.
High resolution is needed if you want the best out of your synth, but MIDI behavior becomes so weird. Sometimes NRPN is transmitted, sometimes not, it blocks some CC from transmit/receive. @trond.olsen listed what you should check, but can you elaborate on what you are trying to achieve? Maybe with the channel used?
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Thank you for the information, I appreciate it.
Also: when the unit is transport synced to an external source, when you hit Play while moving a controller on the unit, the controller becomes unresponsive until you move another controller. So maybe you hit something similar in your work.
Maybe try to deactivate Transport and/or Tempo sync and see if there is improvement?
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Thank you, but I’m thinking of making some time to see how it works just with the MIDI cables connected to the RME Fireface UFX III, directly into it, without connecting the USB cable from the Super Gemini to the PC. I still can’t manage to create automations for everything in Ableton…
Again, when I connect the S.G. to Ableton via USB, and I don’t activate the “LOCAL” function on the S.G.… none of the S.G.’s functions work. I haven’t found any detailed workflow with Ableton and S.G., only some very superficial things…
From what I understand, when working with a DAW you need to disable the “LOCAL” function on the S.G. in order to use synchronization with Ableton, to have the S.G.’s arpeggiator synced with Ableton’s tempo, and to be able to move and automate any function from the S.G.…
For me… nothing. Maybe I’m not doing it right, maybe I’m missing something.