I also hope LFO1 will be able to use the extra/user waveforms, as the Super 6 can - the manual makes no mention of this addition in the case of the Gemini.
Unless we hear otherwise from users or UDO themselves, I’ll have to take the manual at face value and assume that MPE receiving isnt implemented in the initial firmware.
It wasnt implemented in the first few years of Super 6 firmware, even though the Super 6 manual described it in detail as if it was, and I guess they wanted to avoid a repeat of that misleading manual. But perhaps its misleading in the opposite direction this time!
Already first update of firmware for SG to version 1.9, refer to https://www.udo-audio.com/downloads
wonderful marvellous super smashing great.
I’m sure I’ll be even worse than George, people trying to talk to me and I’ll just keep soundtracking them.
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While I wait for my preorder to get filled for the next UK batch, am wondering if anyone here who has already got one of these can weigh in on how the arpeggiators interact with external clock…specifically, are the notes quantised/aligned to the beat (as is the default with Nord) or des the arp start at the instant notes are played. Im hoping the former! Ive read the arp section of the manual but it wasnt entirely clear.
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Am I remembering correctly that George mentioned the Gemini would have some kind of “True Mono” mode back at superbooth? If so, hows that working and does it seem like the S6 could get it too?
Hi everyone, I am new here. I sold my 1,5 years old S6 two months ago to buy the Gemini, and it is finally on its way! Can’t wait to get my hands on it. I am planning to make some YT content with it too. Cheers, Vincent.
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Bug or fault?
Good evening folks. Had my Gemini for a couple of weeks now and very much enjoying it. However I’d like to hear from UDO or other owners whether they’re experiencing a couple of issues, as follows.
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I’ve noticed on oscillator 2 of the lower layer only, what appears to be phase resetting at random, sporadic intervals. Happens both pre and post-install of v1.9. Process as follows: put Gemini into single mode, activate lower layer, initialise that layer, set the mixer to 100% oscillator 2, trigger and hold a single note and listen. Might take a while to hear, but I’m occasionally getting what sounds like waveform phase resetting, BUT only on saw or triangle. Other waveforms seem to be unaffected from what I can tell. Pretty audible when it happens, should not be happening.
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Again this refers to the lower layer. I’ve experienced, soon after initialising this layer and holding a note down (init sawtooth), a sudden apparent parameter jump, causing the tone of the initialised sawtooth to very audibly change from pure to resonant filtered sawtooth. As though the synth scanned the physical position of the resonance pot and detected an incremental change, despite me not touching the controls. I suspect this change would not be audible right after initialising unless the synth also scanned the cut-off pot (whose position was approx 75% open). Resonance with the filter fully open is less likely to be audible right after initialising.
Two early findings here, the first of which happens predictably every time I use the synth which is disappointing. Can’t stress how good this synth is otherwise however, very satisfying sounds come out of it.
What are UDO’s and other users’ findings? Can you replicate these issues?
Just coming back on what I have learned about this:
I heard back form Mike in udo support that the Super Gemini does not support midi beat sync; only clock sync. I raised an enhancement request.
I think this is pretty important for effective use in a live context (although it can be worked around in the studio with external sequencers and/or multiple takes) which is why nord, moog, dsi, etc. etc all support their various versions of it.
I’d urge anyone else who thinks this is important to send them a mail. I dont have an ID for the enhancement but the support call that led to it was "Request #1934”
Im expecting mine at the end of this week or early next. I know what I’m doing over the holidays!
Deleted my post about it, but coming back to this. One of my most used modulation on the Super 6 is “velocity>filter env amount”.
Did some patches on the Gemini last night, and this modulation seems very tame even on full amount, and can not hear it as clearly as on the Super 6, where this particular modulation usually really slaps.
Is there a difference in the modulation amount, or what could cause this?
Edit: also noticed that modulating the filter envelope with velocity (or anything else) affects the pitch envelope too (if you have some dialed in).
DDS Modulator affects DDS1 waveform shapes (PW/Super DDS sliders) event when SUPER mode is in off position. I know that this is by design, buy If i want a string sound with pure saw on DDS1 and PWM square on DDS2, it’s hard to dial in, as the saw wave transforms into a square. This means I can’t seem to be able to program one of my most used osc configurations in, and that is a problem. Maybe one should be a shift function instrad of a shared slider for both oscillators.
Trying to work around this i also noticed that modulating the PW fader with the mod matrix has no effect (example ribbon or LFO2 to PW).
There’s a nice beefy low end to the Gemini sound compared to the Super 6. I find the filter sweetspots are definitely narrower but can venture quite further into the saturated territory. I put together a quick example where I go from crystal-clear dds1 waveforms into a saturated dds2 square oscillator while adjusting crossmod and vcf modulations. Delayed lfo1 is used to fade in sustain and sync licks. I tried to rein in levels with compression but there’s still quite a bit gain difference going on.
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Sounds great trond! Interesting how you think the filter is different when it’s the same device. VCA is different, that can affect things
@CRC - did you get anywhere with your concerns about modulation?
I am also unable to modulate pulse width - the modulation registers but to no effect - if I then turn on SUPER I can hear it is modulating the spread, but it doesn’t modulate the pulse width of the PWM square on DDS2 (the slider works of course).
I’ll have a bit more of a fiddle later and raise something if I still can’t figure it out.
I’m really in love with the synth. Will make a proper thread about it and share some patches at some point. Love it!
Looking forward to that!
yeah although I still got a printed manual with the same error only a few weeks ago. 
Orbital rocking a Super Gemini at Glasto 
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No way!! Amazing watching now on BBC iplayer
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Hope they’re not using the tempo on the lower layer 
Tempo (and much more) now fixed! What a brilliant synth!
Can I ask, is mix a modulation destination (I don’t think so) and is there any way of making DDS tune a destination (I realise I can do this one shot from the LFO, just thinking key pressure etc).
Cheers
It is - button D on the mod matrix is “mix” as shown in the user manual.