I am using the individual upper and lower outputs into 4 discrete inputs of my interface.
Either in single/upper or single/lower with binaural off, I’m getting panning that alternates not to the left or right of the appropriate layer, but bouncing between layers. LR PHASE/spread slider is nulled at the bottom. If I repeatedly strike a single key, the note, even when centered bounces between both layers.
Please…why am I not getting discrete audio within the selected layer? Thanks in advance
In Single mode, the SG actually uses the two layers to get full polyphony. The patch is applied to the two layers, each note you play triggers either Upper or Lower, so the output bounces accordingly.
True separate output is achieved in Dual or Split. Why in Single it is not routed to the selected layer outputs? You can try asking UDO Support by mail.
I hope I answered your interrogation.
Thank you, Arnaude.
I did notice after posting, the behavior you quite accurately referenced while in dual and split modes. I can’t understand why the Gemini was designed to behave this way in single mode. Behavior like this is counter-intuitive.
I agree, counter-intuitive. And it makes it useless because of all the manipulation it implies when switching modes. I gave up using the separate outputs, I shouldn’t have to IMHO.
I can’t understand why either. This is such bad design, it’s either lazy firmware programming or not well-thought hardware. It sounds like MIDI notes alternatively sent to two sound engine in parallel, the finishing touch not being implemented - being the sum up of the voices on the selected layer output. Support does not see any issue there though.
I also agree, please change this!! It makes it so hard to use single mode.
You contacted support and they just said, ‘behaves as expected’? That’s a pity. I haven’t messed with the separate outputs in a while.
If you’re on Single, is the output of the unused layer silent? Just wondering if you can at least sum the two outputs?
No, not silent. Regardless if you’re in single lower or upper, Binaural off, every time you trigger a voice, the Gemini randomly directs it to each set of outputs. For example, if you’re playing a chord, notes will appear on each set of outputs. Fortunately, the stereo positioning is unaffected, however the entire purpose of a discrete output for each layer is functionally null if voices from each layer appear - willy nilly - from both sets of outputs.
For UDO to claim that this is normal behavior is troubling and frankly, illogical.
Totally agree it makes no sense, and makes the outputs kind of useless, which is why I never use them.
Was just wondering if you record both outputs, would it be a workaround for you to sum the two outputs in your DAW later. If that’s what you’re doing.
Did UDO suggest anything to help you out?
Actually, I would have preferred using the mix outs, but UDO decided that each layer must receive a separate midi channel (why can’t they both be the same like any other multi-timbral synth?!?!), which really complicates things when I’m using my S88 controller. I had hoped that having discrete control of each layer in my DAW would help, but the discrete outputs are not discrete.