Smooth filter control or increase resolution

S6 filter’s Cutoff have poor resolution.
In a modern hi end synh is not acceptable to be able to listen clearly to steps on the filter when moving the fader.
At hi resonance settings it’s very clear and it ruins the synth experience when droning.
Please increase the resolution on cutoff fader or if it is not posible with current hardware, at least use the classic technique of smoothing the values adding a software integrator.

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Have you tried controlling cut off with an expression pedal? I had the same issue with th steppy progression using the slider, but modulating that parameter with a pedal is super smooth. Which is a bit odd.

No I didn’t try that.
It can be ok as workaround.
I thought steppy filters was something from the past…but here we are.

I usually use the bender for performance of cutoff (no stepiness) so can’t say I’ve noticed the stepiness on the filter slider itself, but will check it out. It’s normal for hi-res/lo-cutoff to “step” through the individual harmonics as you slow sweep, and it bites into them, but if it’s steppy higher up the frequency range, then that should indeed be addressed.

I do wonder how much the filter autotune side of things relies on the steps to be tuned to anything else. And the autotune is a nice addition.

Autotune have much more resolution than this for sure.
Looks like it is a matter of how the the fader itself is read and not the capabilities of the filter or his associate DACs.

There is a similar problem on the resolution of the osc DDS2 tune knob. The resolution is also poor and beating between DDS1 and DDS2 can not be adjusted very well (only in big increments) This also annois me a lot.

Don’t want to sound rough I love this machine but this little details should be solved someway IMO.

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Hi, in the upcoming release, now only a week away, you’ll find the resolution is dramatically improved on all controls including cutt-off. It’s now higher than the mechanical resolution of the pot itself, so detecting steps should now be impossible on most controls. There is a normal mode using CC for 127 steps on the fader and then a hires mode using NRPN for 16384 steps

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Great!
You rock…

Looking forward for the incoming update

@udo-audio,

I discovered recently that the VCF filter cutoff of the Super Gemini has the same low resolution as described here (simple to hear: just do a slow sweep from low to high VCF with RES at max, you’ll hear steps).

When LFO2 is in charge of this, no steps though…

Is there now a setting I should switch on (NRPN? where, how) that would allow the fader to have a higher resolution? I don’t want to use an external device only for this.

UPDATE:

I here confirm for future reference and for the community that setting BUTTON 3 ON (LED lit) for TX/RX E (NRPN mode, see manual for Super Gemini/8 p. 99) is giving much higher resolution on the fader sampling.

Switching it ON while sweeping the VCF very clearly makes steps disappear :slight_smile:

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Glad you figured it out :slight_smile: It’s not entirely obvious that the high-res MIDI setting also affects physical controls.

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In a sense,

it would be better for the faders and knobs to always interact with the engine of the synth in high resolution, the MIDI settings affecting only the MIDI signals…

I don’t know if it’s a physical limitation here or a software one, if @udo-audio could enlighten us ? :slight_smile:

On Super Gemini, FW 1.26.

Playing with the ENV fader of the VCF, and again it is badly steppy arouond the middle part of the fader course…
Changing TX/RX E NRPN on or off does not change the steppiness of it.
Switching between ENV 1, 1 + 2 ENV 2 does not change that.
Keytrack mode neither.

@udo-audio, to add to the stuff to upgrade maybe in a next FW release…