Many asked for a convenient patch/librarian for UDO Synths. Apparently the UDO Super Six does not allow exchanging the edit buffer via MIDISysEx.
Could the UDO Administrator please explain if this is correct and in case, why this state persists since so many years although so many people asked for a convenient patch management software or VST management plugin which are prohibited by the UDO firmware.
I have been requesting that since years as this is making my S6 editor not so user friendly.
To bypass the issue, I’m using the A1-P1 as edit buffer.
Hello Snupo, Please read through past chat on this subject. It just goes on and on. Don’t be offended at my saying this, as you are a new member and weren’t to know. I know nothing about computer code, so can only guess UDO do not use the same code, format or whatever as other manufacturers. There is at least one editor, but I have never seen proof that it works (e.g. a YouTube video). It may work, but I have my doubts. I think Super 6 works just fine, and the interface so good, it would be slower to edit it from a VST. Finally, Super 6 was DESIGNED the way it is. That’s how George sold it. Those who for ever ask for new features in a software updates are probably asking for a different synth, not a Super 6.
@goodweather did a great job, his editor apparently has great functionality, like visualizing Mod routings, and he documented the issues with the UDO software/interface and his insights exceptionally well. Many thanks. The video:
It is brutally correct that MIDI SysEx is still missing after many years, because of low priority. Certainly UDO can deliver SysEx and they already promised to do so, thx for that. I suggest they formulate a SysEx protocol for all products to give that effort a broad boost for all of them with a single work package.
I played and programmed most synths out there in the 80s, Rhodes Chromas, Oberheims like OB-8, Matrix 12, all the common Rolands and so on. 1985 I developed a MIDI interface for the Rhodes Chroma with a Microcontroller built into the synth. I love synths and all hardware with knobs. Yet a computer software connected to a complex synth is also very helpful, finally we do not have total recall on the knobs and I guess the Shift-features also make values invisible without software. Back then, when MIDI was brand new, some synths started without MIDI SysEx and would have it added later.
If I work with a Juno 60 in the studio exclusively, I do not even need patches, could just create sounds manually from scratch. With a Chroma or Matrix 12 certainly not at all. And live on stage is another thing too. It depends on usage scenario how relevant a software in addition to a cool yet raw interface is. Different people work differently with exceptional and more complex synths like the Super SIX. From forums we see that several people have the same desire and ask for a better way to connect the UDO to patch managers or editors. I suggest to give this a high priority.
I need a synth with polyphonic AfterTouch and combining this with the addition of a new cool sound creation tool would be nice. I like the sound of the UDO and its look and interface very much. Lack of display has some coolness too, and I love those buttons. But for re-editing older patches or others patches I need an editor. Not for tweaking but for reading the patch! Not to edit the UDO from a VST. And better patch management also needs SysEx. If UDO opens up its software interface (MIDI SysEx) I envision an improved SunnySynth editor and could hack my own tools for patch management if that would even necessary. As other do, I also expect more sound exchange between users. If this is still not coming I tend towards the Behringer UbxA, since I need Poly-AT in particular.
I simply suggest UDO to prioritize this, it will make all their Synths more attractive to some of us. There is no point arguing that SysEx should not be added, as such addition does not harm anyone and it does not make it another synth.
All other (non-totally-100-piece-niche) synths feature SysEx. Looking at the SysEx from the UbxA I have to commit, that designing such protocol (Super SIX might equal the parameter count) is serious work and takes more than a few days time. Maybe an incremental delivery is possible. And as said, this hopefully is one work item for all products.
I just love the UDO Six Sound, I love Hazel Mills and her sounds and Kylie Minogue. And UDO uses the Fatar keyboards if I got it right, also nice choice.
There was a time in the 80s when knobs disappeared and the cryptic button only interfaces came up. From Roland Jupiter 6/8 to DX7, Roland JX8P or Rhodes Chroma, Korg Poly 61 and so on. In contrast to the UDO you always had a chance to read all parameters of a patch. As Hazel shows, UDO is the first synth I have heard of that departs here. At that moment Hazel tells the real truth, you cannot read direct mod mappings. This is ridiculous and his been mentioned more than once, also in a comment at youtube.
Does SunnySynths repair this and shows direct mod mappings?