Good to know it was already mentioned, means I’m not crazy ![]()
Well, I have it on the firmware that has Mix as a mod destination, so the bug is back apparently
Good to know it was already mentioned, means I’m not crazy ![]()
Well, I have it on the firmware that has Mix as a mod destination, so the bug is back apparently
I think i had this one too, also in the mod matrix: sometimes the mod amount direction was opposite, so a positive value moved the mix towards osc1 instead of osc 2.
I would really appreciate a bit of firmware attention as was promised almost two years ago. My main thing is the fact that because i upgraded to the supertouch keybed, my Super6 no longer can send regular aftertouch, and (poly or regular) aftertouch doesn’t work right in non-binaural mode. Things that could be fixed in a FW update, so I do feel a bit cheated about that.
Soo… Just checking in, how are things going in the new firmware department? Or should we stop holding our breath already? ![]()
Unless you’re practising for some deep diving, I’d just breathe out and get on with life. I think I’ve accepted my Soup is as it is. I think I was hoping the keytrack of the desktop might make it as a mod source rather than one of the PB sources but hey, what can ya do? It’s still a great synth.
Yep, S6 is abandonware at this point.
I’m happy to be proven wrong here, but at the moment, I’m a disappointed with the level of support the whole series has had.
I’m considering moving my Super Gemini on, too many little things that just needed a little TLC.
The downstream effect of this is I have no plans to buy the DMNO either, and at the present moment, need to know UDO will actually support their products before buying another.
The funny thing is the keytrack mod source made it over to the S8 but it’s actually crippled in some ways compared to the S6 desktop because it doesn’t allow you to route it to destinations that already have a preset connection. That is also true for one or two things on the S6 iirc but what you can’t do on the S8 is stuff like negative filter key tracking or variable amounts rather than just off/half/full. There’s a lot of mileage in honing in on a frequency range with differing amounts of filter tracking so I do miss that. On my Rolands I almost always have keytracking somewhere n rarely slap bang on half. Full obvs for when the filter is self resonating.
But yeah, off the top of my head I can’t remember what other mod routings the S6 Desktop allows you to override vs the S8 not allowing it. N it works just fine on the S6D, you do the mod matrix routing n it overrides the preset setting and then if you adjust the preset amount it cancels the mod matrix one you set up.
So many people asking UDO to sort out their OS across the whole range of ‘S’ synths and no-one from UDO seems to pick up the message?
Makes me wonder how sales are going against the latest synths on the market at the same price point.
Any comments from the UDO team would be appreciated here…
Still love the sound of my S6, but it freezes, sometimes doesn’t boot up properly. Quite dissapointing on such an expensive synth. The clipping on the VCA is horrid, but can live with ensuring all the patches have enough headroom. However, the customer support has been first rate, when you get a hold of the right folks.
Maybe open-source the firmware or the bootloader or something so we can take the development from here? Doesn’t seem like updating the Super 6 is on UDO’s road map, so … ![]()
Not sure about open source firmware unless it’s licensed to a professional Synth development company . However so agree with most if not all the comments people have made and have accepted that the UDO hardware is very well put together and built to last but the firmware across the range seems to be forgotten and left somewhat half baked.
Its also very disappointing that no one from UDO seems to read the forum or if they do , can’t be bothered to let us know if the issues raised by everyone on this and many other forums are going to be addressed. Yes I know that UDO are a small company so may not have the resource support legacy synths (S6 /S8 /SG ) even though they are still in production and very expensive ,simply put the S series is not the latest 'UDO produced 'Toy ’ so cannot see any further firmware updates being issued anytime soon , if at all.
I know a lot of the smaller companies make a major point to interact with their customers. It’s a pity from my POV UDO doesn’t. George was involved here earlier, but just based on his comments in various demo videos, I don’t think they take constructive criticism well. There’s always a little defensive undertone when I’ve interacted with them.
That’s a shame, I haven’t seen any comments here made in bad faith over the years, just folks who want help UDO make as good a synth as possible. But having done design work, I get how it can be very taxing to deal with outside input.
Not that I know better than anyone else, but it feels to me more of a philosophical stance than a financial one.
I think it’s fine when companies don’t listen to all the feedback from customers, it’s kind of the same for musicians. You don’t want expectations to alter your own direction/vision. Like people asking for desktop versions, more voices, etc. -some instruments are designed the way they are for a reason. Elektron was a unique boutique brand when they were doing their own thing, but over the years, as requested features from customers kept getting added to new devices, their latest stuff feels less focused - or “pure,” I’d say, with a lot of overlap between products. They might be more successful from a business standpoint, but as they’ve focused more and more on business, the end products just feel different. But I do agree UDO should be more transparent and interactive (like they used to be?) and at least explain the reasoning behind their decisions. To me, the minimum requirement is that they deliver what they’ve promised and make sure all the basic functionality is intact.
Does someone have a list of all the features that are not fully functional, and features once promised but not yet delivered?
The most evident is the DUMP button on the Super 6 panel…
I’m giving UDO another 12 months to sort the issues mentioned or my SG is going to charity. The snails pace releases and lack of info/development are disappointing to say the least. Most of the issues that people are having, seem like easy os Implemented fixes, so it’s annoying and frustrating that nothing at all has been done. Also, the updates that have been released for the SG are so minor, kind of ribs a bit you know.
Come on UDO! Listen to your customers ![]()
It’s not just about missing features, it’s the general glitchy behavior of the synths.
yeah I’ve just put my S6 Desktop back up after a few months with the S8 and there are more bugs here and there. It’s actually more confusing than the S8 due to that although perhaps that’s partially due to it working slightly differently too. The latest bug I’ve found is when you have a RBN-1 attached to the S6D and you go into the modulation matrix it won’t let you choose any of the other sources until you press the ped/cv button first. I also forgot, the X-Fade is back to front??
Anyway, I still love U.D.O. and the only reason I’d sell my S6D is if they brought out a refined and redesigned V2 which I’d be well up for. But ONLY if they really took their time to refine it rather than just going wow, much feature, so new, wanna buy?
I’ve made up my mind about bringing the S6 in line voicing wise with the S8/Gemini - I think keep it different. Both have their strengths.
But yeah, my biggest wish is more attention to detail, voicing, parameter tapering, envelope shapes, elegance & economy of design, all those types of things rather than OMG we added granular FX etc. S6/S8 HPF could do with reduction in thumping too.
I suppose you could say U.D.O. is still a relatively young company and they’ve had a heady rise from launching into a global pandemic. I suffer from ADHD as much as any 80/90s kid so I can understand the lust for creating new stuff and I’m no business major but I appreciate that to keep a business solvent you need to keeping selling newness. Where would U.D.O. be by now if they spent the last 3 years solely refining the Super 6? It’s moot. But yeah, let’s have some continuity and steady evolution in refining their core products. The DMNO was quite a surprise and I think a good move to bring others who wanted more exotic filters, FX and a screen into the fold but crikey, I don’t code FPGA but I could understand if whomever is writing it all (I’m not sure how that’s all organised) is a little bit frazzled!
U.D.O.s ethos when it comes to build quality and design is refreshing in this day and age of clones and built to budget price point stuff.
Viva Bristronica!