Uncle Wayback's Ultra Gemini Thread

Hello peeps!

I thought I’d start my own thread, so I can ramble on about various Super Gemini related projects without feeling like I’m flooding the forum. I’m working on a patch in pure/plugdata at the moment, which should hopefully be able to give visual feedback on control settings by reading patches/performances. It won’t be a full on editor or anything like that, nor a commercial product, just something I’m making for myself that I plan on sharing if others have a use. I’ll get in touch with that sunny fellow and see if I can help fill in any gaps in their info, too, to help speed up the arrival of a proper editor (though it won’t help me ‘cos I’m resolutely GNU/Linux). Anyway, more on that in a week or so I reckon. Don’t get too excited it’s just a hacky little thing!

I thought I’d start by sharing a few soundcloud links to little things I made with the SG. These are all entries in the weekly Disquiet Junto Project. Here is a link to a FAQ on that: Disquiet Junto F.A.Q. – Disquiet

Most of these are pretty wonky with rather shoddy playing, but they have some character I hope, which might make them more listenable. I don’t have a history with keyboards but the SG has inspired me to play more, so bit by bit I might improve. Anyway I can still has fun not-exactly-jazzing-out on them eminently pressable white keys in the meantime. Disquiet Junto projects tend to be completed in a few hours, so that’s another thing to bear in mind! I do hope to make some proper tracks with the Gemini, and share some patches/performances, but that’ll be next year at the earliest, as quite busy at the moment. I recommend checking out the Junto, it’s welcoming & interesting, good practise & plenty fun…

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^ This was a bell-themed brief, so I played around with the ring mod a bunch and layered up a couple of wonky performances.

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^ The brief for this one was to experiment with mixing dry elements with wet/reverberating elements. The Gemini is great for doing dry but still spatial!

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^ A chilled out one, the idea being to make something you could imagine waking up to.

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^ This had a kind of biological theme, exploring what we can control and what we can’t. So, along with the obligatory heartbeat-type-sound, I tried to synthesize some flatulence.

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^ This was about making music to accompany a photo from your window, with the frame in view. I treated the Gemini a bit here, tried to add some texture, first by mic-ing the room, then by exploring some Air Windows plugins. They’re really great! I’ve played around a bit with trying effects on the Gemini but have rarely felt they add anything, even really good fx! However, playing around with the Air Windows stuff I had some real “oh yeah!” moments - some of them really revealed aspects of the sound and gave me a lot of fiddly flexibility to explore… have to explore more one of these days. Had an idea of associating an fx-rack, and perhaps some midi interventions, made in puredata, with Gemini patches/performances, to give another layer to things… all takes time tho!

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^ An 8-bit themed one. I found some gameboy waves and prepared them for the SG. This was my first time loading my own waves on. Fun stuff!

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^ Lastly one based on the start of a book I was reading at the time, Raising Hare by Chloe Dalton. The photo is of a young hare (Leveret) we ourselves raised a few years back, after a friend accidentally wounded them while mowing the lawn. This is a long one, me tweaking an arp on the Gemini while the Jomox AlphaBase mk2 takes care of the drums. It was a half hour session, I’d wanted to edit together the best bits but didn’t have time and so just did a live mix of the end section.

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Well, that’s more than enough from me for the meantimes! Hope you enjoy a little here or there if you listen. I’ll update the thread from time to time when I make progress with my projects. Or just feel like rambling, maybeep.

Cheeriooze!

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I’m super keen to have a play with the tool to view patches. TBH I’m on the verge of selling my SG and to replace it with something that has that.

Hi @andyr, I’ll try and have something up this weekend. You’ll want to have puredata or plugdata installed, you’ll need to be able to run it ok and get midi in and out bare minimum.

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^ what it’s looking like atm, in plugdata… just need to do some tests over next few days as trying to implement optional “takeover mode”, where (with midi i/o properly set up & local off) faders won’t effect the sound (i.e. won’t send midi) until they pass the threshold of the saved value (7-bit mode only)… there are a few ctls here & there whose curves i haven’t been able to get 100%, and I’ve yet to plot the panel matrix, but overall it should give you a pretty good idea of your patch/perf settings.

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It looks amazing! I’d not come across puredata or plugdata before :slight_smile:

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This looks fantastic! I’m actually ok with the SG design philosophy but am especially appreciative of the users that make these kind of improvements. Can’t wait to check it out.

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Morning all,

I’ve set up a repository and uploaded the patch for testing here: GitHub - unclewayback/ODNI: PD (puredata) patches designed to interface with the U.D.O. Super Gemini synthesizer.

There is a README which should hopefully make things clear enough to get started.

Pure/plug-data is a rabbit hole of the goodest kind.

I am also very much onboard with the SG design philosophy! My first move has been to try to understand/visualise the patch/perf files in part because I have a bit of a backlog and wanted to sort them out a bit, but my aim is more to explore what is possible (I’m an inverate fiddler!) via interventions according to the midi implementation, and perhaps at some point to bring the audio in and mess around with some FX.

I hope you find it somewhat useful, even in its currently incomplete state. (More boring zen slog to figure the ins&outs of the mod matrix when I’ve the time & energy for it!)

P.S. - if you aren’t used to setting LOCAL OFF, be mindful that this setting persists, so if you turn on yer Gemini some time and it’s not making any sound - be sure to check the LOCAL setting before flipping owt.

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Pardon me, just realised I was using one of my own abstractions down in the guts of the patch, so you’ll be getting errors (“UTIL/count-up …couldn’t create) as it was not packaged - I’ll sort that now and update.

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That’s sorted now, so far as I can tell should work on anyone else’s system now, without any dependencies. The fonts will be over-sized if using puredata, so please use plugdata if you want the gui to display correctly. I’ve only tested in plugdata standalone, but no reason why it wouldn’t work in the vst version if the SG is properly routed in/out of the plugin (I’ll do a test at some later date on that front).

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What is this.for the uninitiated?

Well, it is for the uninitiated, if they so feel the call, to initiate themselves, no?

Because the answer is: magical powers. Absomalute control over your synthamatizers! (I now have my MC-505 making coffee for me, and the volcas are busy making my bed. The Gemini, however, is a higher being, and I as have not yet acheived sufficient equilibrium to speak, as it were, twin to twin, I can but assert they will never be consigned to housework.)

Or in other words: it is a graphical data-flow based programming language with a particular emphasis on real time audio manipulation but also it is very capable in the control domain. If you have heard of Max, as in “max4live”, Pure Data is its open source sibling. They were both developped by the same guy, Miller Puckette, but Max took the commercial trajectory. Plugdata is a relatively recent fork or branch of Pure Data that is distinguished by having a smoother more modern GUI and being able to (among other things) run as a plugin in your DAW.

Updated to version 251012:

I updated the readme to give, I think, clearer instructions for use. The mod matrix now highlights non-zero entries to make it easier to read at a glance. I implemented basic functionality for the panel matrix: the message box column will display active destinations (the row, as labelled, corresponds to source). You can write names to file (not live, as the Gemini drive in use is write protected).

I’ll probably have to give it a break for a while now, to work on other things, and I may well change tack to focus on more creative stuff when I get back around to working with my Gemini - but here you have the ability to read patch/performance files, and a takeover/catch up mode to the extent that current implementations allow. Nanu nanu. \|/

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