Poly aftertouch keybed retrofit kit for Super 6

Nope, not a peep (Brighton)

I did ask about delivery details above but no reply

Shame it hasn’t arrived in time for the bank holiday when we actually have some time to do some music :expressionless:

All good, can’t get to my super 6 till next week but really looking forward to trying it!

Nothing here yet, or delivery / tracking details (Bristol - Yes same city as UDO is based in)
Was hoping to install over the bank holiday.

I’ve got a shipping update today so I’m guessing they are starting to go out soon.

Received the shipping order update 20 minutes ago. Label created via Fedex.

Mine has arrived! Looks lovely. Unfortunately my S6 is in another studio so will have to wait till Tuesday to install it but looking forwards to seeing how everyone gets on with the install.

Mine arrived today. Unfortunately I’m away on holiday so installation will have to wait. Looking forward to it and hope it’s an easy process

ARRIVED TODAY - looks fairly easy to install - key-bed feels great not at all clunky and nicely weighted . Install planned for Sunday .

when did you all order your Poly AT kit?

I ordered the very same day it was announced, but still no info on shipping.

Ordered on the website so I’m sure yours will be there very soon if that’s the case.

Installed my S6 kit this morning, can confirm to everyone that it is not in anyway technical , the instructions are very clear and understandable , just follow the instructions and you should have no problems , that said I found the following which could be a little confusing :

  1. my S6 original key-bed was held in place by 12 Philips head screws (longish pointed self-tappers) UDO supply 10 short torxT20 screws with a blunt head. If your S6 has the same don’t worry , the new key-bed is designed to be attached by the supplied 10 Torx screws.

  2. when you remove the old key-bed you need to remove the thin after touch ribbon from near the bender assembly - this ribbon cable is not required for the Poly Key-bed.

  3. Likewise the two ribbon cables you need to unplug from the main board are not needed .

  4. Make life a little easier , open up the screw holes (black plastic pillars) a little on the new key-bed before installing, just rest the key-bed on a soft surface and start to screw a Torx screw into each hole just to start the threading process, makes life easier when installing the new keys.

  5. For those who’s S6 had 12 Philips head screws fixing the original key-bed in place and now fitting the new kit , identifying where to screw the 10 supplied Torx screws into is easy , just look for the black plastic (see point 4) - yes you will be left with two small holes in the underside which used to be used , they are now surplus.

Hope this helps anyone who has never taken a synth apart before - this is as easy as it gets.

Point of note - the inside of the S6 really is very simple and incredibly well built using high quality components .

Finally , ensure you loaded the latest OS , if you haven’t then the synth will not produce Poly aftertouch.

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Forgot to mention , UDO have included a decent Torx screw driver thingy in the kit as well as 10 Torx screws for securing the key-bed…

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hope my kit will be here soon, and that the customms here in germany will not destroy anything…

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How does it feel/work?

As everyones feeling re playability and feeling is different I will try to be as open as possible when answering Niko’s question (above)

Starting with how I felt about the original keys , decent quality but somehow lacking in the control of both velocity and expression , OK for entering notes into a DAW / MPC etc but for actual playing - no.
Now the new key-bed , in the very short time I have had the new key-bed installed in my S6 , it seems that the velocity settings have been tweaked this coupled with the weighted , fast shallow key action of the new key-bed tmakes the synth far more expressive and playable. As for the poly AT , have edited a couple of sounds to take advantage of this type of AT and yes it works but suspect its going to take some practice to master the system but if all you want is to hold down one note , engage AT on that one note and play five note motifs, baselines etc not impacted by the AT effect then this is quick , easy and very effective.

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Just finished installing my kit. Really easy to do, just follow the instructions. Keybed feels much much better, it’s very smooth.
The travel is very shallow in comparison to the old keybed so still getting used to that. The velocity “seems” easier to control.
The aftertouch is way easier to trigger which combined with the shorter key travel is not that great. I’d say that the force required to hit top velocity to for example open the filter will also trigger the aftertouch.
The firmware notes mention:

• Aftertouch sensitivity autocalibration

  • Recalibration to playing style. Maximum finger pressure is
    monitored as you play and used to determine the maximum
    aftertouch pressure

Not really sure how that works but I am hoping mine will stabilise and I’ll be able to get to 100% velocity before there is any sign of aftertouch.

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I have the same issue with velocity and aftertouch but on the gemini. It would be great if UDO could take a look at this topic.

I am guessing the beds are the same as well as the implementation but it’s way too easy to trigger the aftertouch. The velocity is amazing though.

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Came across a strange bug with the new poly AT keyboard. If delay time is routed to AT, it works only every 6th note. This is one of my favourite things to do with AT.

@niko the Delay is a send effect that operates on the voice mix. Since there is only one delay (technically two, left and right) there is only one Delay Time value globally, not one per voice. For this reason it could be considered a “monophonic” destination. You should find that in Solo and Legato and unison modes, it works as intended, but then this is not polyphonic. There could be a few different approaches we could try to make Delay Time modulation musical in poly modes, such as make it respond to the maximum pressure of all keys. I will see what this sounds like!